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**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by jayson

Any of the carto you did with him, was he using multiple accounts at the time to make sure you had enough people to enter? It seems to me that anything pvp related is tying groups together even if the majority of people were only along for the ride so to speak. It genuinely sucks because we all know that these areas are impossible to map without enough players, and Anet has made no effort to allow pve players to explore the arenas. Would've been simple enough to have an arena guard let you go in explore on your own.

my main account did NOT carto with him---last time I did the fa/jq carto was 08? (well before they re-vitalized it...I can find the threads in explorers to see the exact date).
of the 3 accounts I used to map with him 2 are perma'd one is NOT. of the 4 accounts that got perma'd ONE I never did carto with him (we were trying to do the HM titan quests)
Yes we had him using 4 accounts, me 2 and the other person we were helping had 2 as well. As I didnt have low level characters in all those areas I had to change accounts to get factions--that account is NOT banned.(as well as nightfall).

phat34 · Jan 30, 2015, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Lawsuits are definitely being filed. A few of my friends are putting together a nice class action suit which you all will hear about shortly. This isn't the way to run a business in America, not sure how other governments will react. Banning over 1000 members without even so much as a press release is the height of stupidity IMHO. If someone breaks a rule, proof needs to be presented and a formal e-mail. Chargebacks should also be coming their way.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 08:18 PM // 20:18

good luck with that (really).

I do know that when I was working I had to sign an agreement saying they could terminate my employment at ANY time for NO reason...I havent read the EULA in a while, but I wouldnt be surprised if there isnt a clause in there of the same idea. Not to mention they can stretch the rule that AC quoted to mean just about anything you do in game can be construed as a violation.

Surge goes pre · Jan 30, 2015, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by phat34

Lawsuits are definitely being filed. A few of my friends are putting together a nice class action suit which you all will hear about shortly. This isn't the way to run a business in America, not sure how other governments will react. Banning over 1000 members without even so much as a press release is the height of stupidity IMHO. If someone breaks a rule, proof needs to be presented and a formal e-mail. Chargebacks should also be coming their way.

Is this a joke? Cause it's the best one I've heard in a long time. Lol. It made me crack up.

Anet has the right to ban anyone they want for any reason. It's one of those things you have to agree to when you play the game. The government is gonna laugh all over this. Guild wars is a video game in a virtual world.

Why would they make a press release for a 9 year old game? No press agency would cover it. They have much newer games that they want the attention for.

Again, if this is not a joke, someone needs to get outside and smell the roses ^ you're on a guru account created in 2k15, likely to troll?

Motoko · Jan 30, 2015, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Surge goes pre

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Honestly any type of lawsuit isn't a terrible idea. You may think it is a "troll attempt" or a "joke" but look at the logic of the move:

ArenaNet clearly has no interest in putting resources in to GW1. That is clearly shown by the lack of support responses the community has seen.

Filing a lawsuit would cost ArenaNet money to handle. This is a guess, but I would think that it would be money they have zero interest on wasting on GW1. It seems like it would be easier and cheaper just to undo the ban work than actually deal with a lawsuit. (I personally don't know how the lawsuits would work - if you would have to file in Washington state or your residence state)

And as far as those spending the money, time, and effort on the lawsuit? Why fault them? They obviously are passionate about this game and the time/efforts they have spent before this point.

The type of people that will go great lengths to get the job done, no matter the cost, no matter how great a challenge - Those are the people I like. The ones mocking and quitting and emo-ing it up? Those types are easily forgotten.

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 30, 2015, 10:04 PM // 22:04

[motoko's prayers to be unbanned intensify]

Title Points R Us · Jan 30, 2015, 10:09 PM // 22:09

once again can we have a like button? lol

Motoko · Jan 30, 2015, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

[motoko's prayers to be unbanned intensify]

I haven't touched the game since winning gold this last mAT.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for fiction though.

vineseed · Jan 30, 2015, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by phat34

Lawsuits are definitely being filed. A few of my friends are putting together a nice class action suit which you all will hear about shortly. This isn't the way to run a business in America, not sure how other governments will react. Banning over 1000 members without even so much as a press release is the height of stupidity IMHO. If someone breaks a rule, proof needs to be presented and a formal e-mail. Chargebacks should also be coming their way.

Is this the same phat34 on gamerevision discussing how he has disassembled the gw client? yeah, that's against the eula (see also: License to Use, section 3:d)

and good luck on the refund..
"(b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time."

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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko

Filing a lawsuit would cost ArenaNet money to handle. This is a guess, but I would think that it would be money they have zero interest on wasting on GW1. It seems like it would be easier and cheaper just to undo the ban work than actually deal with a lawsuit. (I personally don't know how the lawsuits would work - if you would have to file in Washington state or your residence state)

It's Texas state. (see also: General Provisions, section 15)

Qbit · Jan 30, 2015, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Same Phat yes,

Others have been working with the exec. for a while too (hence hacks etc)

With the glad / champ / codex limits, such hacking would prove to be quite inefficient (while still advantageous of course)

The only title left to be nerfed is gamer (Which has been hacked and possibly will be during this CNY)

The packet that's being referred to was added to the game during the HA nerf (during which many thought that the game became 'botproof') - it's just a matter of the packet that caused this to be believed

Banwise, I've used MultiLaunch, Dressup, Vanquisher, CamUnlocker, Texmod. . .not banned. . . yet

Cheers lmao

Enchanted Krystal · Jan 30, 2015, 10:44 PM // 22:44

I use multilaunch for the storage of my Magmas collection & can say that the bans are not for multilaunch alone. It might be a combination of multilaunch & pvp'ing perhaps?

Hope this info helps.

EDIT: FYI i'm not banned

Motoko · Jan 30, 2015, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by vineseed

It's Texas state. (see also: General Provisions, section 15)

It seems that would cost them an extra chunk of money having to come to your state to deal with a lawsuit.

Ghen · Jan 30, 2015, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Enchanted Krystal

I use multilaunch for the storage of my Magmas collection & can say that the bans are not for multilaunch alone. It might be a combination of multilaunch & pvp'ing perhaps?

Hope this info helps.

I believe the bans are sort of random? for i have botted in the past year and am NOT banned.. go figure

Enchanted Krystal · Jan 30, 2015, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by Ghen

I believe the bans are sort of random? for i have botted in the past year and am NOT banned.. go figure

xD now THAT's odd indeed. Tyvm for the honest info tho. Peace.

tooburns · Jan 30, 2015, 11:09 PM // 23:09

i use multilunch pretty much everyday and im not banned YET

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 11:18 PM // 23:18

no multi launch, no pvp...banned...4 of 6.

vineseed · Jan 30, 2015, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko

It seems that would cost them an extra chunk of money having to come to your state to deal with a lawsuit.

not necessarily, they've got more than the one office in Washington State.
http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/austin.php

the texas statute for documents of title being in their favor is probably greater than other states.
the best advice anyone can give is sending the DA a letter asking for advice

phat34 · Jan 30, 2015, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Instead of spending time worrying about who I am Dumb(u know the rest) do the real work....

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020708...s-Manage-Fraud

Mr. FAT ARSE AKA shazbawt is introduced at 11:20

The funny people on this thread are the Arse Kissing ANET Groupies... I am on the BANNED Side... People that have played this game for 5 - 8 years are getting perma banned... where 30 - 90 day ban would have been the appropriate punishment! Don't u think...

Title Points R Us · Jan 31, 2015, 12:10 AM // 00:10

I tend to agree with Phat on this. many are first time offenders also(where as it was repetitive) Still people have done worse & weren't permabanned for it in the past. But they Anet wasn't in the same situation they are now. Needing servers for gw2 ect.

berat · Jan 31, 2015, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by Motoko

I haven't touched the game since winning gold this last mAT.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for fiction though.

Fiction? Aren't you the same guy who got banned for cheating then wrote a lie saying you quit the game and just inactive? lel

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Originally Posted by Motoko

Motoko wrote:
Hey guys. I find it very interesting that staying offline a few days and asking to borrow a friend's account allowed some fun rumor's to come out. It really speaks volumes for the people who were left in this game. It is rather disgusting actually.

With many of my friends receiving perma-bans, I don't see much left for me in this game anymore. I will probably play some more mATs with people I enjoy, but other than that, I don't see myself having the desire to trade mod or play in this community anymore.

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